From Fang Chun: Do you think it is a good idea for the US government to compensate certain minority groups who were treated unequally in the past? Why or why not?
From Heesook Park: Why did Carlos decide to go to Imperial Valley?
From Brian Vo: Were the white men jealous of the Filipinos that married caucasian women?
From Danielle Wong: Have you ever been racially discriminated against?
I feel that it is not a good idea for the US government to compensate certain minority groups who were treated unequally in the past. I feel this way because they would have to pay a lot of people because I feel like they have screwed a lot of people in their history. The government is broke enough as it is so yeah...
I do think that the US government should compensate certain minority groups. Although, there is a fine line between rational and irrational compensation. Obviously, minority groups who've been segregated and mistreated are far too large in number to be compensated. For example, those who've had people in their family sold to slavery should not be compensated because it would be far too difficult to organize such an endeavor; however, compensation for those unjustly removed from their homes should be compensated. Asian Americans were forcefully evacuated from their homes shortly after WWII. Many of those people lost their homes or businesses. They should be compensated for their loss. Compensation does not have to solely revolve around money. Because the evacuation has only happened recently, (relatively speaking in terms of all of history) it is much more rational to compensate those who have lost their homes and businesses.
People are given reparations in compensation for prior hardships their ancestors had gone through, specifically for slavery. In my opinion, I think this is pretty fair seeing how this stifled that certain generation. The past had hindered that family, and I believe that it'll be a like an apology.
I don't feel is a good idea or for the US government to compensate for the unequal treatment of minorities in the past. I feel as though there are way too many minorities now that before to even attempt to compensate for these kind of things. With America the way it is now would also make I nearly impossible to do so as well, and what kind of compensation are we talking about? Money? If we are talking about money I dont believe that would be right either, to give groups of people money in compensation for unequal rights? I also feel like this type of job would just be too big in scale to even accomplish at this moment America had many other large scale issues to deal with that need to be addressed ASAP. If the government ever decided to do so, I think that the groups of minorities should be compensated in other ways other than money.
I think that the government should compensate people who were treated unfairly and lost their property in the process. I don't think that the government should compensate each individual who was mistreated,segregated and discriminated against. It would be a lot of money and a lot of work to find and determine the amount each individual deserves to be compensated. Plus, it wouldnt really fix anything. Not only does the government have bigger priorities to address on the national level, but if there was money to spend on minorities, it should be spent on the minorities as a community for better education, create more jobs and local businesses, and helping the community as a whole.
question #1: Why isn't it a good idea to compensate for those who were harmed because of the American government? I remember when Bill Clinton compensentated a Japanese man for his sufferings and time in the interment camp, it took over 30 years for this man to receive anything from the government.
question #3: I think caucasian people fear that they will be driven out of the land that they live on. That soon the faces around the United States will be all sorts of different colors: white, brown, light brown, dark brown, black, yellow, and so on. The hatred for Filipinos come from a fear, a fear that Filipinos will take their jobs, their women, and will have nothing left.
question #4: The first time I've ever encountered racism is when I was a young girl ready for middle school, I believe it was the 7th grade. I was in Livermore and this caucasian boy tells me to go back to my country, as if I came from another world. I simply told him that he should go back to his country as well because I am born a United States citizen. Unfortunately, this ignorance still occurs in today's society where people assume that I come from another country, a different world, and that my great English speaking skills amaze people.
I personally don't think it would be right for the US government to compensate people for what has happened in the past for various different reasons. First and foremost what form of compensation is sensible or appetizing for anyone who holds resentment besides a monetary gain? People who have endured racism in the past may still hold grudges and have faced unfair treatment but that doesn't mean that tax payers who have nothing to do with it have to pay (literally and figuratively) for it. Second, who is going to attempt and try to record and document each and every person who this money or compensation is going to receive? That in itself would be a costly and timely process in which Americans would not like to see their tax dollars go towards. Especially in a time in which the economy isn't at it's greatest, I'm sure that Americans would much rather see the money go towards something that is more productive in society and benefits everyone as a whole.
I am not sure whether I have ever been racially discriminated against or not. I am an international student and I do not think I have same chance to transfer to four-year universities with residents or citizens in America. I am not so sure about it, I feel like this. The reason might be that I have to take at 12 units per quarter and pay a lot more tuition than people residents and citizens of the United States whether it is college or university.
In response to Fang Chun's question: That's a question that raises certain controversy. For me, I feel its best to leave the past along. Try to live and forget the horrors of the past and look towards the prosperity of the future. Im not saying for the minority groups who were so wrongfully punished to forgive their punishers, but to not hold a grudge against them. Because I believe that their ancestors who were the primarily victims wouldn't want that.
In response to Danielle Wong's question: As a minority and a first generation citizen in America, i can honestly say who hasnt been discriminated against. That process can happen anytime anywhere. From hurtful comments from a stranger to playful remarks from a close friend, discrimination is something i believe everyone has to go through at some point in their life. Is it fair? No, but the way our society is structured, people are never going to look past race and differences.
I don't think it is a good idea for government to compensate what they did in the past. first of all, it is hard to measure the damage they did. for example, native people had been driven out from where they lived long time ago. how can the government pay for the territory they lived or the culture they had. It is almost impossible to measure the loss of the minority people. I think it is more realistic that government don't make the same mistake in the future.
Yes because this is one way that the US has learned to "apologize" for the pain and inequality that it has inflicted onto minorities and people of color. Yes because this is somewhat feasible for today, but honestly, money doesn't compensate for pain, lost time, anger, degradation, humiliation, etc. My best friend's grandfather bought a truck with the government's reparation money from being interned at Tanforan and Topaz. Is this justice? Does this make it okay? A new truck for all of the things that a person and a family lost? I say Hell No.
No because I think money in attempt to heal a history of inequality is bullshit. There needs to be greater and grander structural change. The government can't just put monetary bandages on historically underprivileged and underresourced peoples. I say put more money into teaching and educating all people about these events to ENSURE that this doesn't happen again.
Q1: Yes they should be compensated because of how they were treated before. Ethnic groups working like that and not getting proper conditions and respect is terrible. Money would be a good thing for compensation, but they would also have to account for all the emotional damage they caused. Just giving them money doesn't forgive the damage they have caused. The U.S would have to think up of something more then just money
I think that instead of compensating people, the government should just do some preventive stuff so it doesn't happen again. I think that you can't rely compensate people for stuff like that soo we should just make sure we learn from our mistakes and everything.
Q1: Yes I think the US gov should compensate people below the poverty line.
Q3: Probably, I can't be surely aware of everyone's opinion on this subject given that there are so many individuals, I would have to guess yes. At least one person is likely to have been jealous.
Q4: Yes, who hasn't ever been racially discriminated?
I don't think the U.S. government should compensate minority groups who were discriminated against in the past. While the intention is admirable, it will never happen. The logistics of this are mind-boggling. Who decides who gets compensated? What defines discrimination? Would there be a relative pay scale of discrimination, e.g. $1000 = very discriminated, $500 = slightly, etc? This would raise too many murky questions and I think would in fact exacerbate racial animosities by pitting races against each other in a "who was discriminated more" contest and instilling an "us vs. them" mentality. And, like Janice says, monetary bandages are bullshit.
What the government should due is invest more money into underprivileged communities and education. While discrimination may have been the cause, the effect in modern times is poverty and a severe lack of resources. The U.S. should attempt to stop this never-ending loop of depression, violence, and poverty by helping kids educate themselves and getting them off the street. Education truly is salvation, and rather than giving people a check for a small amount of money, the government should use that money to open opportunities and develop communities.
Q4: Yes, I have been racially discriminated. In fact, most people I know have been discriminated against at least once in their entire lives. When I was in middle school, I went to a school that the majority was Mexican American, and I would get picked on and called names plenty of times. I think that name calling according to your race is one factor of racial discrimination.
Growing up in an ethnically diverse location and attending a predominately Asian school for most of my life, I have never been racially discriminated against...at least not to my face, anyway. However, there have been times in my life where I have felt not being a minority would have helped me fit in better in certain situations or made certain things easier.
I have never seriously been racially discriminated since I grew up and still reside in a large Asian community. Of course there are times when being Asian or Japanese will be joked about by my friends who are of the other race, but it has never been detrimental. Ironically the people who I get the most 'racially discriminated' against is by my Asian friends.
The only time i can remember being discriminated for being asian was in elementary school and middle school. Its not hard to be discriminated if your a minority going to an all mexican school. Although it did hurt at first, my skin got thicker from racist comments. It actually made me a stronger person because I fight back when people try to discriminate me.
I think it would be a good idea for the government to compensate minorities for their past mistakes, it'd only be fair. BUT then again we're in trillions of dollars worth of debt so that actually might not be that great of an idea.
Yes, I have been discriminated against and it sucks!
I feel that it is not a good idea for the US government to compensate certain minority groups who were treated unequally in the past. I feel this way because they would have to pay a lot of people because I feel like they have screwed a lot of people in their history. The government is broke enough as it is so yeah...
ReplyDeleteI do think that the US government should compensate certain minority groups. Although, there is a fine line between rational and irrational compensation. Obviously, minority groups who've been segregated and mistreated are far too large in number to be compensated. For example, those who've had people in their family sold to slavery should not be compensated because it would be far too difficult to organize such an endeavor; however, compensation for those unjustly removed from their homes should be compensated. Asian Americans were forcefully evacuated from their homes shortly after WWII. Many of those people lost their homes or businesses. They should be compensated for their loss. Compensation does not have to solely revolve around money. Because the evacuation has only happened recently, (relatively speaking in terms of all of history) it is much more rational to compensate those who have lost their homes and businesses.
ReplyDeletePeople are given reparations in compensation for prior hardships their ancestors had gone through, specifically for slavery. In my opinion, I think this is pretty fair seeing how this stifled that certain generation. The past had hindered that family, and I believe that it'll be a like an apology.
ReplyDeleteI don't feel is a good idea or for the US government to compensate for the unequal treatment of minorities in the past. I feel as though there are way too many minorities now that before to even attempt to compensate for these kind of things. With America the way it is now would also make I nearly impossible to do so as well, and what kind of compensation are we talking about? Money? If we are talking about money I dont believe that would be right either, to give groups of people money in compensation for unequal rights? I also feel like this type of job would just be too big in scale to even accomplish at this moment America had many other large scale issues to deal with that need to be addressed ASAP. If the government ever decided to do so, I think that the groups of minorities should be compensated in other ways other than money.
ReplyDeleteI think that the government should compensate people who were treated unfairly and lost their property in the process. I don't think that the government should compensate each individual who was mistreated,segregated and discriminated against. It would be a lot of money and a lot of work to find and determine the amount each individual deserves to be compensated. Plus, it wouldnt really fix anything. Not only does the government have bigger priorities to address on the national level, but if there was money to spend on minorities, it should be spent on the minorities as a community for better education, create more jobs and local businesses, and helping the community as a whole.
ReplyDeletequestion #1:
ReplyDeleteWhy isn't it a good idea to compensate for those who were harmed because of the American government? I remember when Bill Clinton compensentated a Japanese man for his sufferings and time in the interment camp, it took over 30 years for this man to receive anything from the government.
question #3:
I think caucasian people fear that they will be driven out of the land that they live on. That soon the faces around the United States will be all sorts of different colors: white, brown, light brown, dark brown, black, yellow, and so on. The hatred for Filipinos come from a fear, a fear that Filipinos will take their jobs, their women, and will have nothing left.
question #4:
The first time I've ever encountered racism is when I was a young girl ready for middle school, I believe it was the 7th grade. I was in Livermore and this caucasian boy tells me to go back to my country, as if I came from another world. I simply told him that he should go back to his country as well because I am born a United States citizen. Unfortunately, this ignorance still occurs in today's society where people assume that I come from another country, a different world, and that my great English speaking skills amaze people.
I personally don't think it would be right for the US government to compensate people for what has happened in the past for various different reasons. First and foremost what form of compensation is sensible or appetizing for anyone who holds resentment besides a monetary gain? People who have endured racism in the past may still hold grudges and have faced unfair treatment but that doesn't mean that tax payers who have nothing to do with it have to pay (literally and figuratively) for it. Second, who is going to attempt and try to record and document each and every person who this money or compensation is going to receive? That in itself would be a costly and timely process in which Americans would not like to see their tax dollars go towards. Especially in a time in which the economy isn't at it's greatest, I'm sure that Americans would much rather see the money go towards something that is more productive in society and benefits everyone as a whole.
ReplyDeleteI am not sure whether I have ever been racially discriminated against or not. I am an international student and I do not think I have same chance to transfer to four-year universities with residents or citizens in America. I am not so sure about it, I feel like this. The reason might be that I have to take at 12 units per quarter and pay a lot more tuition than people residents and citizens of the United States whether it is college or university.
ReplyDeleteIn response to Fang Chun's question:
ReplyDeleteThat's a question that raises certain controversy. For me, I feel its best to leave the past along. Try to live and forget the horrors of the past and look towards the prosperity of the future. Im not saying for the minority groups who were so wrongfully punished to forgive their punishers, but to not hold a grudge against them. Because I believe that their ancestors who were the primarily victims wouldn't want that.
In response to Danielle Wong's question:
As a minority and a first generation citizen in America, i can honestly say who hasnt been discriminated against. That process can happen anytime anywhere. From hurtful comments from a stranger to playful remarks from a close friend, discrimination is something i believe everyone has to go through at some point in their life. Is it fair? No, but the way our society is structured, people are never going to look past race and differences.
I don't think it is a good idea for government to compensate what they did in the past. first of all, it is hard to measure the damage they did. for example, native people had been driven out from where they lived long time ago. how can the government pay for the territory they lived or the culture they had. It is almost impossible to measure the loss of the minority people. I think it is more realistic that government don't make the same mistake in the future.
ReplyDelete#1: Yes and no.
ReplyDeleteYes because this is one way that the US has learned to "apologize" for the pain and inequality that it has inflicted onto minorities and people of color. Yes because this is somewhat feasible for today, but honestly, money doesn't compensate for pain, lost time, anger, degradation, humiliation, etc. My best friend's grandfather bought a truck with the government's reparation money from being interned at Tanforan and Topaz. Is this justice? Does this make it okay? A new truck for all of the things that a person and a family lost? I say Hell No.
No because I think money in attempt to heal a history of inequality is bullshit. There needs to be greater and grander structural change. The government can't just put monetary bandages on historically underprivileged and underresourced peoples. I say put more money into teaching and educating all people about these events to ENSURE that this doesn't happen again.
Q1: Yes they should be compensated because of how they were treated before. Ethnic groups working like that and not getting proper conditions and respect is terrible. Money would be a good thing for compensation, but they would also have to account for all the emotional damage they caused. Just giving them money doesn't forgive the damage they have caused. The U.S would have to think up of something more then just money
ReplyDeleteI think that instead of compensating people, the government should just do some preventive stuff so it doesn't happen again. I think that you can't rely compensate people for stuff like that soo we should just make sure we learn from our mistakes and everything.
ReplyDeleteQ1: Yes I think the US gov should compensate people below the poverty line.
ReplyDeleteQ3: Probably, I can't be surely aware of everyone's opinion on this subject given that there are so many individuals, I would have to guess yes. At least one person is likely to have been jealous.
Q4: Yes, who hasn't ever been racially discriminated?
I don't think the U.S. government should compensate minority groups who were discriminated against in the past. While the intention is admirable, it will never happen. The logistics of this are mind-boggling. Who decides who gets compensated? What defines discrimination? Would there be a relative pay scale of discrimination, e.g. $1000 = very discriminated, $500 = slightly, etc? This would raise too many murky questions and I think would in fact exacerbate racial animosities by pitting races against each other in a "who was discriminated more" contest and instilling an "us vs. them" mentality. And, like Janice says, monetary bandages are bullshit.
ReplyDeleteWhat the government should due is invest more money into underprivileged communities and education. While discrimination may have been the cause, the effect in modern times is poverty and a severe lack of resources. The U.S. should attempt to stop this never-ending loop of depression, violence, and poverty by helping kids educate themselves and getting them off the street. Education truly is salvation, and rather than giving people a check for a small amount of money, the government should use that money to open opportunities and develop communities.
Q4: Yes, I have been racially discriminated. In fact, most people I know have been discriminated against at least once in their entire lives. When I was in middle school, I went to a school that the majority was Mexican American, and I would get picked on and called names plenty of times. I think that name calling according to your race is one factor of racial discrimination.
ReplyDeleteGrowing up in an ethnically diverse location and attending a predominately Asian school for most of my life, I have never been racially discriminated against...at least not to my face, anyway. However, there have been times in my life where I have felt not being a minority would have helped me fit in better in certain situations or made certain things easier.
ReplyDeleteHave you ever been racially discriminated?
ReplyDeleteI have never seriously been racially discriminated since I grew up and still reside in a large Asian community. Of course there are times when being Asian or Japanese will be joked about by my friends who are of the other race, but it has never been detrimental. Ironically the people who I get the most 'racially discriminated' against is by my Asian friends.
The only time i can remember being discriminated for being asian was in elementary school and middle school. Its not hard to be discriminated if your a minority going to an all mexican school. Although it did hurt at first, my skin got thicker from racist comments. It actually made me a stronger person because I fight back when people try to discriminate me.
ReplyDeleteI think it would be a good idea for the government to compensate minorities for their past mistakes, it'd only be fair. BUT then again we're in trillions of dollars worth of debt so that actually might not be that great of an idea.
ReplyDeleteYes, I have been discriminated against and it sucks!